Al Stefanelli

A Voice of Reason in an Unreasonable World

Holier Than Thou

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by Dave the Sandman, guest columnist

First a little background. Till the age of 18 I attended what was, back in my day at least, a strict single sex Catholic school (Thornleigh Salesian College, Bolton, Lancs, UK).  Now back then you had to be a good practicing Catholic just to get in, I was taught almost exclusively by priests and lay brothers of the faith, and RE (Religious Education) was a set part of the standard curricula till you were 16 (I got a B at O Level in it…so much for the theologically ignorant atheist argument eh?). That doesn’t mean I was one of the faithful myself, as at 12 I worked out it was all contradictory claptrap, but as Shakespeare had Richard III say: “I can smile and murder whilst I smile”.

Anyways, on to the point. Now over in the USA , and increasingly in the UK, we hear the opinions touted that atheists like you and I have no moral basis for our actions – we are without faith, without grace, and moral relativists stuck in a wicked world of materialistic nihilism. Oh yeah?

In the Wacky Races rotating door world of the GOP primaries we have seen one sickeningly hate filled idiotic cross burner after another proudly tout their Holier Than Thou credentials and with teary eyes explain how their drive for wealth and fame and power is in fact divinely mandated. One after another these cretinous skinwastes have been exposed as liars, philanderers and immoral scum, and one by one they have been sidelined. This has resulted in the rise of Rick Santorum, gay hating family values bigot and all round know nothing closet racist plutocratic white bread retard.  He is flying his god credentials hard, and constantly referring to how Catholic and moral he is. So, lets compare this shabby Forest Gump warrior for Rome with me, the immoral nihilistic moral relativist and hellbound lapsed follower of Mother Church.

Rick, as evidence can prove, is arguably a fully blown Creationist. He tried unsuccessfully to get Creationism …sorry Intelligent Design…..rammed into US schools[1]. I on the other hand, being of a scientific and rationalist bent, and English, fully understand and support Evolution as the only explanation of how I now sit at a keyboard typing this rant. Mother Church, via the last two Popes writings and public addresses, supports and accepts Evolution, albeit in a deistic format.  So…that’s Sandman 1, Santorum 0.

Santorum, from what he has sad publically in the past, appears to be arguably a Biblical Literalist who believes the Old Testament is the word of God. I on the other hand, as I can read and I like to learn about history and cross culturalisation of mythologies, know for a fact that the Old Testament is all plagiarised from earlier cultures such as the Assyrians, and the rest is just propaganda written by scribes to the Jewish royal court to make themselves appear bigger and more important than they were. Mother Church via doctrine as taught at schools like the one I attended teaches that the Old Testament is largely, if not totally, allegorical. That’s Sandman 2, Santorum 0.

Being of a “small s socialist” bent, (I’m English so socialism is bred into us), I believe in things like a fair and reasonable distribution of wealth across societies is a good thing we should strive for. Santorum believes that raging income equality and a “dog eat dog / sod you if you fall behind” system is what is best[2]. Pope Benedict has publically decried income inequality between rich and poor, calling it a “scandal”. Score that Sandman 3, Santorum 0.

I also believe and fully support a strong and robust social welfare safety net including comprehensive state funded universal healthcare for all. Santorum on the other hand fully supports the Ryan Plan that would dismantle what little the US has in the way of public healthcare and welfare. He most recently spoke, which he now denies, that taking away welfare payments and food support from “blacks” would be a good thing. And Mother Church’s opinion and doctrine? Well, they say I’m right and Rick is wrong[3].  Sandman 4, Santorum 0

Having had some background in consumer rights regulation and monopolies investigations I know that market regulations, particularly in financial sectors, are not just desirable they are damn well essential protections for society’s wellbeing and benefit. Santorum on the other hand thinks and maintains that it is regulations and regulators who cause financial collapses and economic stagnation. Mother Church has stated publically as doctrine that market regulation is necessary to protect the public from financial malpractice[4]. So now that’s Sandman 5, Santorum 0.

Workers Rights and labour policy perhaps? As I’m English I believe in strong unions and was myself at one time a Union representative. Rick says that Unions should be abolished and is against any form of public sector pay negotiations by labour movements. Mother Church has been strongly pro-Union since Pope Leo issued the Rerum Novarum in 1891, and maintains that standpoint to this day via its Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church. Sandman 6, Santorum 0.

As I’m English and have an IQ larger than my shoe size I also understand Climate Change concerns and am persuaded by the 94% of scientists who think than anthropomorphic influence is a real thing and a glaring threat to our wellbeing. Santorum, being a brain dead US politician and paid for shill of the energy companies, says its all a bunch of bunk and a conspiracy by some evil cabal of mad scientists to attack the US industrial complex’s profit margins.  Mother Church? Ah, well Pope Benedict and his berobed staff agree with me and those scientists[5]. Sandman 7, Santorum 0.

Torture is an evil practice that degrades both the victim and the state that carries it out. It is of no value in terms of intelligence gathering, and has always failed to be an effective tool of state security. 5 minutes in a room with me and a pair of pliers and I can have you admitting it was you that shot JFK. I say that as a rationalist, as a history buff, and an ex-UK government intelligence analyst. Santorum has time and again spoken out supporting torture. Mother Church? Modern Catholic doctrine calls torture “an intrinsic evil”[6]. Sandman 8, Santorum 0.

Jesus Rick! Eye on the ball son! Swing the bat, hit the ball, run for base! Easy see. So, what are we left with?

Rick hates LGBT people and has compared them to paedophiles and bestiality freaks. I support and speak out for LGBT rights and making the word ALL in “Liberty And Justice For All” mean what it says. Mother Church rails against gays and condones/conceals the actions of kiddy fiddling men in black. Score 1 for Rick. Mother Church abhors abortion rights for women, and equally abhors any form of contraception. Rick is fully on board with that. I am most certainly not. Score another for the Rickster.

But hang on! The score at the end of the match is still Sandman 8, Santorum 2. Holy crapballs Rick! That means not only am I a better Catholic than you, I appear to also be Holier Than Thou!

And far be it for me to do this Rickky, but must I really remind you about old Mother Church’s carved in stone principles of Magisterium and Papal Infallibility?

You see Rickky you cardboard Catholic not only am I, an anti-theist positive atheist, a better Catholic than you….. you my pedigree chum are a HERETIC!


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_Ammendment
[2] http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/20/393539/santorum-im-for-income-inequality/
[3] http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1102903.htm
[4] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/world/europe/vatican-calls-for-global-oversight-of-the-economy.html?_r=1
[5] http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/11/pope_durban_climate.html
[6] See further http://www.faithfulcitizenship.org/

Written by Al Stefanelli

January 7, 2012 at 10:51 am

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  1. Bravo, Dave! A very thorough demolition of his bogus morality argument. But it seems somewhat unfair to engage an idiot is a rational argument. He’s at a tremendous disadvantage! It’s sort like beating up on a cripple. <);-)

    Chuck Doswell

    January 7, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    • Thanks for the compliment Chuck. However, as a moral relativist and full time evil baby eating Darwin cultist cripple kicking is my favorte Sunday afternoon passtime just after foetus slaughering.

      Abhor the Whore my friend, and cast that vote wisely.

      Sandman

      January 8, 2012 at 2:14 am

  2. The word limt seems to have clipped the end of the rant off so here it is…a jokes no good without the punchline, and mine comes with a brass knucke side salad.

    “And far be it for me to do this Rickky, but must I really remind you about old Mother Church’s carved in stone principles of Magisterium and Papal Infallibility? You see Rickky you cardboard Catholic not only am I, an anti-theist positive atheist, a better Catholic than you….. you my pedigree chum are a HERETIC!”

    Now…far be it for me to suggest rally tactics to counter this goofball…..but how about instead of turning up and shouting “Mic Check!” just stand there and shout HERETIC at him.

    Sandman

    January 8, 2012 at 2:20 am

  3. Have you ever considered becoming the Pope of Anti-Theism Dave? Peeper would gladly offer her sewing skills up for your robing adornment, and I would be happy to build you a really kick ass Pope Mobile.
    You are one hell of a Magnus maior maximus compleo vir!

    RJ Evans

    RJ Evans

    January 8, 2012 at 6:55 am

    • Thankyou RJ….I dunno about Pope but maybe I should run for President, as I seem to know more about your country’s history and Constitution than the cock-knockers of the GOP ;-)

      what really pisses me off is that THIS is what the Bishops and Arch Bishops should be saying to the media.

      Hes a Catholic Jim, but not as we know it.

      Sandman

      January 8, 2012 at 11:14 am

  4. Enter the Sandman, Exit Hypocrite “My waife can have an abortion but yours can’t” Santorum.

    This made my day!

    Cthulhu

    January 8, 2012 at 10:20 am

    • Thankyou mate and a hearty Cthulhu Fhtagn! to you.

      Spread the word…..sod Mic Check…..shout HERETIC at the spam faced swine.

      Sandman

      January 8, 2012 at 11:15 am

  5. Well done indeed sir! Your humorous antidote is a soothing relief from the poisonous atmosphere we breathe daily from sundry fundy blowhards that are now a permanent part and parcel of life In These United States. If I may, I’d like to share a brief synopsis provided by one of your fellow countryman who calls himself “The loony from Catford”. It was a posting reply in the Guardian some months back, and I quote it whenever and wherever I feel it necessary:
    “Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie, who was his own father, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree”.
    Whats not to believe about that?! And these DNA-holes are running for President.

    skeptic-al

    January 8, 2012 at 12:53 pm

    • Thankyou my friend and Im glad I made you laugh.

      The style of my bit, and the Catford commentator to the Guardian, is archetypally British. When I was in the US I was always amazed at how my US cousins thought we Brits were all painfully polite and well spoken. I had to explain time and again, much to their amusement, that we Brits use swear words as a form of punctuation and can turn debates quckly into a verbal form of full contact sport.

      If you can watch footage of a parliamentary debate in our House of Commons (BBC News runs footage sometimes). Its hilarious….sort of like a verbal game of American Football without the pads and ball. That robust form of debate is how we are brought up….we call it “pub rules”.

      The only reason your politicians play the god card is because you allow them to. As I said, turn up and instead of souting “Mic Check” shout “Heretic!” at the goon. That and collar his spin doctors and minders and focus group goofs and hammer into them you are sick of this holier than thou crap.

      If you can “smile and murder whilst you smile” you could also pay a visit to your local RC Church and have a chat with the priest about how Santorum is bringing Mother Church into disrepute. Most priests, in my experience, tend to be nice reasonable blokes. That message will eventually work its way up the hierarchy if its done often enough. If like me you are an ex-Cath you could play the card that it is because the Church will not call out the Santorum’s Newts and Mel Gibsons of the US that you think the Church has fallen into disrepute and no longer feel any affinty with it.

      That and spread the word…..turn articles lke this into a meme….mail it around and cross post its link to comments sections elsewhere. These things turn viral fast and morph into news slots and columns elsewhere. (And thats not ego-maniacal self promotion…..Santorum is a scary prospect and needs slamming down).

      Have a good one mate, and hopefully 2012 will see the other side ever more wrongfooted and set back.

      sandman67

      January 9, 2012 at 2:57 am


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